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Sea Breeze
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XJW Conference in Austin/San Antonio Area - Aug. 13-15
by Sea Breeze inthere is an xjw conference coming up in the austin / san antonio texas area in a couple of weeks.
former elders, ex-pioneers, born-ins and former ministerial servants will be speaking about the problems with the wt and offering ideas on how to approach current members.
counter cult experts will be speaking as well.
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More lies from fake news.
by mickbobcat innews is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
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Sea Breeze
The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was a time of much warmer climate than today, lasting from roughly 900 to 1300 AD. - 400 years.
What should politicians do in light of the global cooling that has happened since then?
A. Reduce our freedoms?
B. Increase our taxes?
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Splane`s war rhetoric
by inbetween09 inthe last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.
however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.
1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.
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Sea Breeze
With the WT its always Heads I win :
JW's always boasted about winning court trials as proof of Gods backing, particularly in the 40`s, So, send us your families' inheritance.
And, Tails you lose:
JW's losing court trials is evidence that Satan's attack upon God's people has begun. The end is near. So, send us your families' inheritance.
Suckers.
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More lies from fake news.
by mickbobcat innews is broadcasting that death valley is getting close to breaking a record.
the highest air temp recorded is 134 but that was in 1913 way before the huge spike in co2.
now its 130 and its the end of the world.
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Sea Breeze
According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.
What should politicians do to help stop the build up of ice in Antartica? Reduce our freedoms? Tax us more?
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Catholicism and Orthodoxy- 2000 yrs of experience
by Powermetal4ever inalright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?
jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.
so silly of them.
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Sea Breeze
By the end of the first century, the canon or the Bible was complete (John writing the book of Revelation in A.D. 95-96). By the end of the second century, the early church fathers had quoted from all of the New Testament books. The Muratorian Fragment (A.D. 150-170) listed all the New Testament books, except for Matthew, Mark, Hebrews, James, 1-2 Peter and 3 John.
The document is called a fragment because portions of the document have been torn off. The well known biblical scholar Westcott states that the missing books were probably included initially because the document is torn where they should have been listed. The Bible had already been established.
In the years that followed, the authority of certain books was challenged. Church councils were convened to review and verify the contents of our Bible. The Council of Carthage (A.D. 397) is usually pointed to as the council which finally put the debates to rest.
But unfortunately there will always be men who will challenge the authority of various books in the Bible.
In other words, the bible and sound Christian doctrines are easily determined today and are rock solid. Don't let anyone tell you differently.
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Catholicism and Orthodoxy- 2000 yrs of experience
by Powermetal4ever inalright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?
jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.
so silly of them.
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Sea Breeze
Pick up a set on Ante Nicene Church Fathers if you want to check out what was going on directly after the apostles left the scene. This volume set lists the writings of church leaders until 325 AD. It's easy to read the writings of the leaders that the apostles trained, and who they trained and so forth.
This is the set I bought: https://www.bonanza.com/listings/The-Ante-Nicene-Fathers-Complete-Set-Volumes-1-10-1989-USA-Roberts-Donaldson/1098748708?goog_pla=1
These were the early church leaders and they were always writing to each out about some trouble or heretical group or person and seeking advice from each other. It is very easy to determine what they believed because of all these writings. "Against Heresies" is a major early work. There is some variation among the leaders as you would expect, but nothing of huge importance.
They end up quoting all but a few verses of the NT while writing to each other. So, scriptures that are disputed by the critical text are easily checked out to see if / how the early church fathers quoted them or not. Basically, the early church leaders quoted scriptures consistent with the textus receptus - or KJV.
Lots of groups of Christians were never part of the RCC or the Reformation. Most of their histories were wiped out as the RCC killed 50 million people in Europe over an 800 year period. I do not believe that a person can understand Christian history without learning about these remarkable groups and the methodical relentless persecution they endured for centuries.
Here's the best work documenting these Christian groups IMO: https://www.amazon.com/Reformers-Their-Stepchildren-Dissent-Nonconformity/dp/1579789358
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Multiple Police Officers On Duty for Jan. 6th Protest Commit "Suicide"
by Sea Breeze inhttps://news.yahoo.com/fourth-capitol-police-officer-died-165444271.html what is going on here?
coincidence?.
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Sea Breeze
We all know the election was stolen from Trump
And more importantly, stolen from the citizens of the USA.
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Multiple Police Officers On Duty for Jan. 6th Protest Commit "Suicide"
by Sea Breeze inhttps://news.yahoo.com/fourth-capitol-police-officer-died-165444271.html what is going on here?
coincidence?.
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Rocketman,
To a lot of people, the whole event had the look and feel of something that was carefully managed. We all saw the Capitol Police leading protestors into the Capitol. Most footage has been removed from YouTube, like the one where that cop was leading Buffalo Man up the stairs into the Senate chamber. We all saw that with our own eyes....remember? But, this one still remains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6U5JNOlS8&ab_channel=Spoudazo.US
The hatred of the Deep State for Trump is well documented, some foreign analysts say because he is an outsider. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to set a trap in this event with paid agitators working up the crowd. It would control all the central players, but if other officers showed up not knowing the script, they could be dealt with later. And if some Capitol police balk at the script, they can be dealt with as well. This isn't their first rodeo.
I used to be more trusting, until I saw what kind of manipulation is possible by the Wt. It's mind-boggling. I have also seen what power does to people like my older brothers who were/are elders.
4 suicides of Capitol police involved on Jan. 6th?
C'mon man!
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Multiple Police Officers On Duty for Jan. 6th Protest Commit "Suicide"
by Sea Breeze inhttps://news.yahoo.com/fourth-capitol-police-officer-died-165444271.html what is going on here?
coincidence?.
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he has no to little evidence, just self assuming speculation.
We all saw the evidence on TV... remember the observers getting shut out?
He is a "Retired Army Intelligence Captain". Looks a bit bigger than just self-assuming speculation.
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Multiple Police Officers On Duty for Jan. 6th Protest Commit "Suicide"
by Sea Breeze inhttps://news.yahoo.com/fourth-capitol-police-officer-died-165444271.html what is going on here?
coincidence?.
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He should go to jail for winning an election?
Highly Respected Elections Expert Seth Keshel Releases National Fraud Numbers: Finds 8.1 Million Excess Votes in US Election, Affirms Trump Won PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ, GA and MN
Appears that Trump won a landslide victory. He should be immediately reinstated. If for no other reason than to stop the "suicides".